ASU+GSV 2026 Summit | Monday, April 13, 2026, 4:00 pm-4:30 pm | Sponsored Partner Programming
Speakers
- Rahm Emanuel
- Michael Moe, GSV
- Phyllis Lockett, LEAP-X
- Dr. Mahalia Hines, Common Ground Foundation
Key Takeaways
- Former Ambassador Rahm Emanuel discusses his vision for education reform in America, drawing on his experience as Mayor of Chicago, White House Chief of Staff, and potential 2028 presidential candidate.
- The session covers his family's values around parenting and public service, his education achievements in Chicago (universal pre-K, extended school days, community college access, and the "Learn, Plan, Succeed" diploma requirement), and his sharp critique of both parties for abandoning education standards and accountability.
- Emanuel argues that every solution to America's reading and math crisis already exists somewhere in the country -- what's missing is the leadership nerve to implement them at scale.
- The conversation also touches on lessons from the Obama White House, geopolitics (Iran/Strait of Hormuz), and the moral urgency of preparing the next generation for real jobs.
Notable Quotes
"Republicans have walked away from public schools and the funding of public schools, and Democrats have walked away from standards and accountability, and our kids are falling through the cracks."
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"Every challenge we have on reading, math, high school graduation, post-secondary education -- all the answers are actually operating today in America... The nerve and the strength to see it through is what's missing."
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"Don't ever tell me that child, that background can't do it. You give them support, set goals, challenge them, they'll get there. Don't throw the towel in on a child."
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"I don't consider myself an education reformer. I think it's a bad term. I believe in excellence. And I'm not for mediocrity."
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"You can't compete against a country, China, that's three times our size and accept 50% of your kids not reading at third grade level."
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Full Transcript
Good morning. Okay, I'm a teacher, I need better than that. Good morning. It is my pleasure to introduce a young gentleman to you today.
Well, he's not that young anymore, but he looks good, okay? You probably know him as being an aide in the White House to Bill Clinton. I'm sure you know him as being the chief of staff for Barack Obama. He was also the mayor of Chicago, and currently he is ambassador.
But that's what he does. That is not who he is to me. So I would like to introduce you to who he is. He's the gentleman, when I sat on the board of education, who listened to me.
I was the first teacher to sit on the board. So when there were critical decisions to be made, he listened to me. He is also the gentleman that I remember going to the homes of families who had lost their children to violence, not only to console them, but actually paying for the funerals. I remember him going to midnight basketball games.
If you don't know what those are, in Chicago, the boys could not play basketball in the daytime or early afternoon for fear of violence. And so they played at midnight. I remember him taking some of the young men home to their houses, sort of scaring the parents to death when they saw all these police cars drive up. I remember him being a friend, not just a friend, but a great son, a very good husband.
Amy says he's working toward being a great husband, and a wonderful father. It is truly my honor to introduce someone who I call my friend, Mr. Rahm Emanuel. I think you're, oh, you can, you want me in the middle?
Hello Rahm, it's great to see you. You've talked so much about your family, and, you know, Terry and I had the pleasure of being at your dad's funeral, and so many great things were said about him, and your family, and your incredibly accomplished brothers. Can you just share a bit about your family and talk about what was the secret as we think about educating our young people to aspire at the levels that you all have achieved? Well, first of all, let me say that there's not a secret, that's number one.
Number two, I don't, if you don't want to read it, don't read it, but since this is the most frequent question I get, I wrote a piece for the Wall Street Journal on parenting, which I happen to think is the most important thing we do, and we don't, as a country, discuss family life. That said, just a couple basics, one, my dad was a pediatrician, and he always said he never met a child that was spoiled because they were told too often that they were loved. Not that he applied that to his own kids, but that's what he applied to, we were called schmucks, but other kids were, and it's true, and every one of my children, they're now 28, 29, 28, and 26, every day they hear from me, I love you and I'm proud of you, doesn't mean I'm not angry at you, but you get that. Two, my mother did this, and I think it's very important, and we copied it, Amy and I, we had a round table as our kitchen table, so there was no head at the table, and you were expected to come and debate, argue, scream, yell.
Jokingly when Amy and I saw Ari and I together, she goes, why are you guys fighting all the time? I said, we're not fighting. She goes, yes you are. I go, no, that's how we talk to each other.
The more important, two other things I would say to be quick here, I don't believe in quality time, I think it's crap, be present in your child's life, that's a more important value. Lastly, we grew up, in our family room was my grandmother's purse, and above it was her passport and my two great aunts passport, that purse carried their papers to America at the turn of the century, and on either side of that framed purse and passports were the black and white photos of relatives that never made it to America, and it was, one side was dad's, one side was mom's, and it was my parents' direction that being an American was a gift, and you are not to waste this gift. People who never came here, never got here, died, and your job is to relish what America is, and I happen to think it's the lottery of life is being an American, and you have to relish that. So those are really quickly, and the last thing I'll close on, even when I was Congressman, Mayor, Chief of Staff, we had four meals, dinner, a night as a family, and I told the office, you schedule around those, you cannot schedule my family time around the work.
So Shabbat dinner, Sunday dinner, two during the week, and that was mandatory, and nobody, and then you could figure out anything else. Being present in your kid's life. Well, you just gave me chills with that answer, so thank you for that. And I'm going to come in hot.
Why do you want to be President of the United States? Oh, geez. Obviously, what I answered, the first question really moved you, Michael. You have a unique way of boxing your emotions.
So what I would say, look, I haven't decided, but what is, and I'm going around the country, but what motivates me is I'm the product of the American dream. My grandfather came to Chicago in 1914 without a bucket to spit in or a window to throw it out of, and a generation next, his grandson is both the mayor of the city that welcomed him, and he was chief of staff to the president, senior advisor to another one, and represented us overseas. But if we're honest, the American dream is disappearing for more Americans. They don't believe in it.
And I think this is a make or break period. Now we have gone 20 years with two presidents, different presidents, but both are trying to restore a past that's not coming back. We should actually be, what I think is important in 2028 is we have a chance to actually discuss, argue, debate, and start building a future that includes more people, and more importantly than that is restoring confidence and faith that owning a home, sending your kids to college, saving for your retirement, and not going to the poorhouse because you get sick isn't actually a struggle, but see something you can achieve. And the fact is people have lost faith that that's ever going to be accessible.
And if I think that I have something that not only have that vision, but more importantly have the strength, because I think tough times require a tough leader, then I'll do it. If I don't, I'll go work on fly fishing. Sounds good. Which one?
The fly fishing part? I got it. Don't worry about it. Rahm, you've done so much and seen so much.
I want to talk a little bit about the Obama years. And look, you know, good, better, and different, Race to the Top was one of the most significant transformative initiatives that the federal government employed in education, but did not fully, fully deliver the full aspirations of what it set out to achieve. What do you think and how did we miss it? What do you think are the implications as we think about charting forth a path in the future?
Well, one is I think you have to dial, run the clock backwards from the nation at risk under Ronald Reagan, and then through President Bush 41, President Clinton's public school choice, plus teachers of excellence, Leave No Child Behind, and then a Race to the Top. All of them, not a linear line, but through fits and starts, good and bad, we saw progress on our academic achievements. Some sliding, and just be up front. Around 2012, whatever, people walk away from standards and accountability because, not wrongly, we were teaching to a test rather than a test measuring the progress.
But the answer wasn't to abandon.
standards and accountability, and then we accelerate what was a trend. I happen to think as an instrument, and I've said this on my plans on both community college and also on replicating Mississippi's reading excellence around phonics, et cetera, it would be modeled on a race to the top to incentivize the adoption of the right type of excellence in education, but also for the high school years. But I don't think it did not fail, it did not get tweaked at the right time that it should have been tweaked. And this is not here's a playbook, run the play, and that's it.
You've got to be adopting, changing, altering, but with the single goal to see improvement over a period of time. I happen to think, and this is not to be partisan, but Republicans have walked away from public schools and the funding of public schools, and Democrats have walked away from standards and accountability, and our kids are falling through the cracks. Now, I want to be clear about this. Every challenge we have on reading, math, high school graduation, post-secondary education, all the answers are actually operating today in America.
Unlike let's say curing cancer, Mississippi showed us something on reading. Alabama is showing stuff on math, having gone around the country, La Crosse, Wisconsin, and in South Carolina, the community college program with our high schools is showing us a post-college career program, post-high school college career program. So the answer is right in front of us. Not losing the nerve is what's missing.
Not the answer. The answer, we know what to do. The nerve and the strength to see it through is what's missing. So leadership's about vision and setting priorities and motivating people to get after those priorities, and I've heard you talk multiple times about how important education is and your education vision, and one thing in particular that people don't talk about enough, I don't think, in terms of leadership is early childhood education.
Talk about what your vision is here. I mean, you talk importance of, you know, these different things need to happen, but what's your vision? How do you motivate, you know, America to have the kind of education system not only it deserves, but really is crucially needed? That's a great, well, one is, as somebody who has studied this, both read about it and I think activated, and I used to say this at our dinner table, leadership is knowing what you want to do and why you want to do it, and then the strength and the courage to get it done.
If you go through FDR, Reagan, Lincoln, leadership is not having all the ideas and not just strength. It's the combination of both knowing where you want to go and then the strength to get it done. Now that said, one is when I go to college, you don't know this, but I had a scholarship to the Joffrey Ballet School, and I did not take it, much still to this day, my Jewish mother's anger at me. So my dad was a pediatrician.
I wanted to become an early childhood educator and then started studying to be a child psychologist. At Chicago, when I got there, I was shocked. We didn't have universal kindergarten, let alone we had the shortest school day and the shortest school year in the United States of America. We did not have full-day kindergarten for every child.
So over the eight years, in the first contract, we added full-day kindergarten for every child universal, and by the second contract in my second term, and having battled the state for additional funding and finally getting it done, something that every mayor tried to get done, we got done, we created universal full-day pre-K for every four-year-old and then raised the standards for the Head Start and other programs so they were focused on educational preparation rather than something else. But it's part of, you know, it's something I firmly believe in, not only professionally, I firmly believe in, as the son of a pediatrician, I know a lot of you thought I was going to say something else, but as a son of a pediatrician, that early childhood education is essential. Let's jump into that, because when you were mayor of the city of Chicago, a great mayor of the city of Chicago, I should add, you made education a centerpiece of your administration. That's why I ran.
From childhood to what you did with city colleges and making that accessible to everyone to extending our school day. Can you talk about what were some of the things that you feel like, again, you nailed, and if you could go back and change anything, what would that be? One is I also want to say this is a team, Dr. Janice Jackson, as you heard from Dr.
Hines, she was on the school board all year, so we did it as a team. She is the mayor in Chicago, you lead that team. I do think we won. We added four and a half years to a child's education in Chicago, pre-K, kindergarten, and then an hour and 15 minutes every day, two weeks every year, the largest increase in time anywhere.
If you want to break the cycle of poverty, you believe in equity, you're not going to do it on the shortest school day in the shortest school year in the United States. Not possible. It's a lie. And if you believe in equity, allowing 50% of our kids not to read at grade level is inconsistent.
Either you get upset about it, or you're lip syncing the idea of equity. You cannot have equity as a core principle and be complacent with what's going on in this country. Number two, I actually think in a bizarre way, I don't think it was a plan, but it ended up being a plan, which is the high school years were the biggest reform. And when I say it wasn't a plan, as Janice and I were talking about this earlier, it comes together, but it wasn't like, there was puzzle pieces.
One, we were the first city, if you got a B average in high school, we made community college tuition, books, and transportation free. First city to do it. Remember, thank you for the vote. Two, which is I'm seeing around the country replicated, we set a goal, 50%, we got to 49% and some change, kids would graduate with college credit, dual credit, dual enrollment, international baccalaureate, AP.
And it saved mom and dad money, and it gave kids wind in their back, they were confident that they could handle the next chapter of their life. And they're never going to be sorry that they got college credit and didn't go to college or whatever. Third, the biggest piece, the point of the spear, which if I decided to take the dive into the deep end without my water wings, the biggest thing was called Learn, Plan, Succeed. To receive your high school diploma, you had to show a letter of acceptance from a college, a community college, a branch of the armed forces, or a vocational school.
We got to 98% compliance with that program. Remember, 83% of the kids in Chicago come from poverty or below. Don't ever tell me that child, that background can't do it. You give them support, set goals, challenge them, they'll get there.
Don't throw the towel in on a child. And if you do get caught trying, you'll never regret it. To me, those high school years were the biggest changes. And we got to, from 56% of our kids graduating, we got to 83%. 67% of our kids were going to college or community college.
We have the largest junior ROTC program in the United States of America, is in the Chicago Public Schools. This is during my tenure, I don't know what the date is today. And our reading and math scores grew to the point that Sean Reardon at Stanford called Chicago the best of the top 100. Now I think the high school is the biggest.
Now my regret, I made a mistake, it's on me, I've said this before, I dealt with the last year contract, we were in a fiscal mess. People forget this, but when I become mayor, the mayor before me did not even do the budget at the schools, which is mandated, because it was just a mess. And I revoked the final year pay for teachers because we were in a fiscal crisis. And I should have gone to the teachers and the leadership, I set off a dynamic that became hand to hand combat.
And that's on me, I made a mistake. And the only thing you can do in life is learn from mistakes, apply messages and lessons forward. So I went to Dunn, what I did, I would never give up on my goals. Amy always jokes, we have three great kids, but she said if we ever had a fourth, she was going to call it patience.
As a daily reminder of a value, I tell her patience is a waste of time. So that's where we're at. So President Obama, both Chicagoans, you were his chief of staff, what did you learn from President Obama? What made him a great leader?
in your experience?
Well, I mean, one, his first selection, the chief of staff is an unbelievable grade. No, I think, I mean, first of all, I learned from, my whole life I learned everything. And I got a chance to work with President Clinton, President Obama. One, look, I mean, I, so I'll give you this classic decision.
We get the auto thing worked out, we get the tarp figured out, we pass the Recovery Act, the Children's Health Insurance Program reauthorized. So we have this famous meeting in the Roosevelt Room, right off the Oval Office, which is, as he referred to it, financial reform, healthcare, and cap and trade, his three children. And we had to decide which one goes first. And, you know, you can't do all three simultaneously, although he wanted to.
So we have this big meeting, it's a Saturday, it's in the spring. And, and I point over there because at the Roosevelt table on the other side is the domestic team, and they say to the President, every day that we don't do healthcare is a day we can't do healthcare, and it's a day you're not gonna get it done. True, from a legislative, you look at the history of healthcare. The economic and financial team is, look, there's all this uncertainty, we're almost under depression, we're trying to get out of it, just don't rock the boat, and all these, obviously, are rock the boat.
The political team, of which I was a principal voice to, I was arguing for financial reform first because I thought the political system, you can see after the TARP and after the Recovery Act, the Tea Party is building. And that we had, if you do financial reform, all the bankers will be on the other side, all the financial sector will be on the side, and the American people who've lost their homes want to see you giving these guys their comeuppance. If you try to do healthcare reform, the interests, pharmaceutical, hospitals, doctors, all have to be either neutralized or on your side of the table. And I said, it's horrible politics for where the country is right now.
He gets 307 electoral votes, so he gets to pick. He went with healthcare. Not wrong. You have a pre-existing condition, or a family member does, you have healthcare today, which did not exist a decade ago.
On the other hand, we also have the Tea Party. And one of the things you gotta know about leadership is everybody wants, okay, here's what they did. Everything has trade-offs. I used to joke in the mayor's office and in the Oval Office, the only choices that make it in are bad and worse.
And you have to have the judgment, the character, and the quality of people to help you navigate in a fog which one's bad and which one's worse. One piece of history out of this, besides the healthcare, Bay of Pigs, Cuban Missile Crisis, failure, success. What if they were reversed? Knowing which is bad and which is worse and how to navigate is their judgment, their inquisitiveness, and their ability to have people around that walk in and say, you're out of your mind.
And both President Clinton and President Obama, and trust me, I used to be 6'2 and 250 pounds. I walked in multiple times a day, and multiple times they told me to get the hell out of there and the leadership that President Obama showed was he was never scared to have smart people, capable people, people that knew their book of business better than him around him. I'm hoping you get the subtle translation to what's happening today. If you haven't, let me talk to you in the back, okay?
But that to me is the biggest thing, and I think, I mean, there's many times, and I'm pointing to Dr. Janice Jackson, I mean, Dr. Hines, they would come in and smack me around, and you want them to do that. Now, once I made a decision, the debate was over.
That was also true with President Obama. Once he made the decision, I gave him the best advice I could. Here's what we're gonna go do. Yes, sir.
And one would argue, Ram, that you've got a lot of those same qualities. In fact, you've been writing a lot about that. Which ones? We won't talk about the bad ones, we'll get to those later, but we, you've been writing a lot, recent op-ed saying how the Democrats need to create a more effective war-looking agenda as we're entering into the midterms for 28.
And I guess the question is, if you were defining a clear and forward-looking agenda for education, what would that encompass? Well, you're gonna get into a bug of mine, so I suppose this is right. I don't consider myself an education reformer. I think it's a bad term.
I believe in excellence. And I'm not for mediocrity. And I think to all of those who, obviously, you care about this issue, I care about this issue, I think it's weird, I really do. I grew up under Bill Clinton, I just saw Governor Riley, you had Governor Hunt, you had Governor Winters in Mississippi, Lawton Childs in Florida, Zell Miller in Georgia.
I can't name five governors, both parties that have been at the forefront of improving education. But think about this, and I say this from my mayoral days, you know how I knew a neighborhood that we were working on improved? When the real estate term sheet of a home had the school on the bottom. That's when I knew we had succeeded.
People will go through great challenges, move distances, move to a new neighborhood in the city to get excellence. And we should be making the argument around the value of excellence versus this type of school, versus that type of funding mechanism. It's a means. Everybody at the kitchen table, when they're making a decision either to stay or to move to another place is around a school that they think produces great education for their children.
And people will go travel across the Pacific to send their kids to a university. So to me, that is the core. I find it, and I said this before and I want to repeat it, that we have accepted as a country that built on the value of failure is not an option. You're at a 50 year reading low or 30 year reading low where 50% of our kids cannot read at grade level.
And you know more about the president's position on windmills than the reading scores. The White House has never commented on it. No two governors of both parties came together and said, we have an emergency meeting, what are we going to do? And again, this is my view.
Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana, and Tennessee that are all seeing massive results. We're going to make phonics as governors, the science of reading, the national standards, no ifs, ands, or buts. Here's how we're going to do it. That's leadership.
And I mean, I will be honest. When I was in Japan, I learned a lot about Japan, learned a lot about the Indo-Pacific. The country I learned the most about was America. 8,000 miles away, I'm like looking at this country, I'm going, what is going on? And we have become complacent about failure as if it's okay.
Things we would never accept in our own kids. And you have young men walking around with an emptiness in their eyes, a sense of loss and alienation you would never accept in your son or daughter. And as long as it's not our kids, we kind of shrug at their shoulders. Well, these are our kids and I don't get it.
I don't understand it. And I really, I don't, if let's say X amount of people run and I decide, more likelihood than not that I'm not the nominee. I don't care. I'm gonna say what I think is important and you can't get from here to there, compete against a country, China, that's three times our size and accept 50% of your kids not reading at third grade level, reading.
What makes you think fourth grade's gonna be easier? Unless basically we've thrown all standards out the window. I think it's nuts. And I have a couple other adjectives I'd like to use, but I can't do it.
Yeah, exactly. One of the reasons I was very excited to have Ram here is I've heard him speak multiple times in general speeches about education right at the forefront. And what he just described, I couldn't agree more with. And this whole concept of excellence as opposed to reform is dead on.
Because we're at an education innovation summit. Let me ask you about Iran. About what? Iran.
Their greatest, let me say this, their greatest export is the brain drain. Because they have highly educated people and they're leaving the country. So just. What's your quick reaction to what's going on?
If you were president, what would you be doing? Well, if I was president, well, let's get two things. I can't unring this bell. So it's wrong.
Okay, you can't unring a bell that should never been rung. Second, this option, military option, has been shopped to four different presidents. All of them looked at it and said no.
except for one guy. Now, what I would have said is, if you look beforehand, you had massive civil disobedience and civil unrest, meaning the country did not accept the political system.
That's how you get change. We destroyed that. Two, after June, Iran was on their back heels, a weakened country. Three, they came to you with a massive piece of reform that you did not realize, because you sent two real estate agents to negotiate nuclear weapons, you did not realize was a massive give.
So I can't unring a bell that should never have been rung. Now, I laid this out a month ago, which is in the middle. Three things, because Iran, we went into the war to destroy their capacity to get a nuclear weapon. They discover in the middle of war they have a nuclear option, it's called the Strait of Hormuz.
Now that's the problem. So we've gone from uranium to the Strait of Hormuz. Three things, short term, all ships get out or no ships get out. That's the short term.
So we've never had a war where the United States told the enemy, you get to make more money, which is what Iran was doing, selling to China, and we permitted it. Number two, medium term. Rather than Iran charging a fee, the United Nations Maritime Association, the United States would have to support the UN, that would be a breath of fresh air, they'll run the Commission and it gets split between Iran, Bahrain, Kuwait, all the countries that were hit. Iran doesn't run the Commission for Iran.
It's not the Strait of Hormuz, it's not their backwater. So medium term, United Nations. Long term, understand and appreciate that Iran's whole goal in life was to get the United States out of the Gulf. So double down to prove that they're never going to achieve the goal.
Use the Abraham Accords, which is a peace deal between Israel, Bahrain, UAE, other members of the Gulf, that if you're in the Abraham Accords, three things. No tariffs, first in line for all US weapons, and third, it will be the financing vehicle for pipelines out of the Strait of Hormuz to bypass it to the Gulf of Oman. Short term, everybody in or nobody in. Medium term, United Nations sets up a commission.
Long term, start financing a pipeline out of the Strait of Hormuz. But again, I'm trying to make lemonade out of a crappy lemon, and I mean this. This is not about gut. This is about having your military, your Secretary of State, everybody who has strong views, debate, discuss, analyze a decision to put men and women at risk, their lives, for a mission for the United States.
The idea that you were not prepared for the Strait of Hormuz means you're Google for what would happen if Iran war happened, didn't work. This is not a national security. Every plan that has gone back 25 to 30 years knows that the option is the Strait of Hormuz, and you took your two minesweepers in the Gulf and moved them in the Indo-Pacific, you're not ready for prime time. And now the United States is exposed as, I wouldn't say a paper tiger, it's not a paper tiger, but exposed in a fundamentally weakened way.
It's insane what is done here. And then lastly, since I'm going to use this to make this point, I was the first to say this. If you're in the federal government, land management over in Montana, to the Oval Office, and everything between, no participating in the prediction markets betting against America. You have young men and women from Peoria, Pontiac, risking their lives, and you got some little Nepo baby from Palm Beach sitting with their number 10 suntan lotion betting against America.
What is this? And I'm sorry, I know the president says I prefer that you don't do that. No. Sign the executive order.
He has all the authority, ban it. You're a federal employee. You're not allowed to participate in the prediction markets at all. Congress, cabinet, judge, stop it.
Either the country is on the line, not just the kid from Peoria, not just the kid from Pontiac. This is insane. Well that sounds very presidential to me. No, no, you know what it is?
I'm gonna tell you what it is. It's a father with two kids who are Navy reservists. That's right. I, the idea, look, I raised my kids with the same sense.
You're somewhere in your life you're gonna do national service. Now I gotta be honest, I thought they would go to teach for America. I never thought Zach became a Navy intel officer, just went to reserve status after seven years. That was his choice.
Amy and I support it. No, I think that one of the things that's missing is, and what I think, the true 1% in this country is not the punks that acquire three, four, five, six, seven homes. It's people who have selflessly given something of themselves to something bigger, and it's not presidential. It's meaning that either we as a country are gonna start acting like a unified country rather than have these hunger games where if it's the other side you'd be to beat the crap out of them, etc.
And I, but I do also think you got a bunch of rich kids trading on inside information and other kids are risking everything of their lives. There's a young couple in America with twins who are seven months old who will only know their father as a photo, and that's just not acceptable that other people get to make money off of that. No, that's real. I mean, I was kind of making light because there's some of us in here that do want you to run for president, and if you do, I just want to end on a lighter note, you know, you've heard of Stephen Colbert.
He has the questionnaire that he, you know, he asked questions of his guests, designed to reveal your true personality and help you be known. So, quick lightning round. What's your best sandwich? What's my best sandwich?
Manny's. It's called the Mayor's Sandwich. It's onion roll, corned beef, and pastrami. That's my, that was when I didn't give a crap.
What's the one thing you own that you really should throw out? What's the one? What's the one thing you own that you really should throw out? What's the one thing I own that I really should throw out?
Well, it's a, it's a, it's a bike that doesn't really, it's lived past its time. Favorite movie? Oh, Godfather 2. Most used app on your phone?
Most used app on your iPhone? The Apple News. You get one song to listen for the rest of your life, what is it? Horses.
Yeah, Horses. All right. Well, you know what, let me revise that. All right.
It would be Hallelujah. It's the most repeated song ever and sung, and there's a great documentary that would say Hallelujah. Oh, I love that. Hallelujah.
White Horses is a good song too, though. Horses is the second too? All right. Well, we give you, ladies and gentlemen, Ambassador Rahm Emanuel.
Thank you.
This transcript was put together by our friend Philippos Savvides from Arizona State University. The original transcript and additional summit resources are available on GitHub. Licensed under CC BY 4.0.